| by msbnmd on March 14, 2010, 8:18 pm in Dating
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In a recent blog entitled Are Pimpin’ and Dating the Same? I asked the question of whether or not we’re all just a bunch of pimps and hoes in this game we call “dating”. I promised to explore the characteristics of a pimp in order for us to begin to fairly examine whether or not the parallels between the pimpin’ game and the dating game are actually real.
How many of us have heard the old adage: “Don’t hate the playa, hate the game”? Well, in most cases, the game is nothing more than a more sophisticated form of pimpin and hoeing. Just like everyone isn’t going to be the next president or fortune five hundred company CEO, everyone isn’t made out to be a pimp. Also, it must be noted, right off the top, that in today’s world or in the world of the game, being a pimp is not a gender specific role; just the same, being a hoe isn’t gender specific either. Pimpin is an attitude, a world view, an approach to life. Are you wondering if you’re a pimp? Maybe you are sitting there reading this, wondering if you’re the hoe. Maybe my short analysis will answer your question, but chances are you already know.
Do You Attempt to Exert Your Will Over Others?
At the basis of pimpin’ is the core belief that what you want and how you get it is a “job” or a responsibility of another person; you simply have to convince the person of this truth. As a pimp, you realize that your desires and comforts cannot just be met by your efforts. So in order to supplement the areas in which you cannot provide for yourself you begin to assign “jobs” or “roles” to those who are enticed by you. Pimps are extremely seductive about this truth. In their reality, their need for others is not emotional, nor psychological; it’s technical, logical, more like a business decision. Life, from this perspective is about having your way. In contemporary society we encounter these people as “secure, sure footed, stubborn, or selfish”. But no matter what way you look at it, these people are more concerned with being identified by what they gain, and who they know, or rather, what others think of them. Instead of establishing a life where they are the sole creator of their destiny, these people seductively “employ” others to help them materialize what they want to experience. In being able to do so, these people are constantly on the lookout for the next ‘good hoe’ that will live and die (not literally, but in some cases I guess it could be literal) to meet their needs – by any means necessary.
Do You Consider Your Love a Commodity?
Pimps aren’t just the violent depiction we see in the movies. Often the very thing that they are selling to their potential hoes is an idea or ideal of family. Pimps are business people first – which means they are constantly assessing income versus output – so for them, the sale of a happily ever after is nothing more than output. As a result, the income they expect is based on what the other person is able to provide. Let me explain – there are those who live to love, and those who are counting their acts of love as though it is some form of currency. As we all know, love cannot be given, nor taken away. But the pimp doesn’t see things this way. In fact, the very nature of the pimp’s role in a hoe’s life is to fulfill the needs that the hoe either cannot or will not fulfill for themselves. As a result, even if it’s an illusion, or a desire, the pimp will present it to the other as a point of sale. The pimp, it should be noted, will just as likely produce as they expect others to produce, however, a pimp knows their limits and sets them, while a hoe has no limit to what they will do for their pimp. No questions asked, no arguments made, no discomfort established. Since they are receiving the illusion they are after, they must deliver the goods their pimp is after.
What’s the First Thing You Notice in a Person, Their Strengths or Their Weaknesses?
Pimps are notorious for being extremely selective about the hoes they choose. The relationship between a pimp and a hoe cannot flourish if there isn’t a sort of yin and yang type of chemistry. Pimps aren’t looking for hoes that are just like them - people who see relationships as a business not a mutual exchange or an opportunity to relate. Nor are they looking for “spirited” people who want to challenge their perspective and world view. A pimp is looking to remain exactly as they are and to be seen by a hoe as some form of “savior” [usually called a “God Complex”]. The only way this can happen is if the pimp commits themselves to a specific behavior: analyzing the weaknesses of others. A pimp isn’t going to try and pimp just anyone out. Noooooo, a pimp is looking for a particular type of person in order to garner the trust and respect they need to exert their will over the other. But more specifically, a pimp is looking for a specific type of weakness: a person with a fragile personal constitution. If a man or woman is approached by a pimp and they are successful in exerting their will over the other, and convincing the other that they are able to exchange “goods” [the pimp wants their gains, the hoe wants their illusions] then the psychological game begins. It’s interesting how many people are unaware of the fact that the “type” they so frequently refer to is sometimes nothing more than a personality that will effectively yield to their “standards, demands, and expectations”.
Pimps are obsessed, almost consumed with control. In the eyes of a pimp, they need to own or be in control of all of their interactions with others. Many psychologists call this a “God Complex”. Rather than being invested in mutual growth, exploration, and intimacy the pimp wants to control. What makes a pimp different from say, a drug dealer, or a thief? Well the pimp is selling the illusion of love, friendship, protection, care, and security. While many people do generally want these things, the pimp is in search of that person who needs these illusions in order to feel at peace. Interesting huh? Ever met a guy or girl who portrayed this illusion, only to wind up trying to control when, how, and in what way you express your love for them? Hmmmm…..
But of course, without one, there cannot be the other; if you're not the pimp, then surely you're the hoe.So in the next round, we’ll look at the Psychology of a Hoe. I think it’s worth investigating. Do you think one role is more preferential than the other? How about the way we see each other? Is it possible that there is a pimp and a hoe in all of us? Maybe, if you find yourself feeling like there isn’t any hoe in you; you have just been able to pimp and vice versa. Is it possible, in this world of dating, that we are all just acting out the roles of the game whether we know we’re playing or not?
-ms.b
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On March 14, 2010, 8:59 pm loveless says:
Another very interesting blog. My only concern here is the terminology. I agree everyone can be put into the pimp or hoe category but isnt a pimp just an EXTROVERTED person and the hoe would be considered the INTROVERTED one. Your blog stated a pimp sells an illusion. A hoe want and need the love so bad they are willing to do anything for it. To me thats relationships period. You always meet someone and they always carry a sack full of dreams with them, you ultimately have to decide if you want the package of goods or not. I agree a pimp pick a certain kind of woman. Usually one that is so desperate they are willing to do anything to receive love. Im not just speaking of women that sell their body either, women sometimes look so desperate that it would be easy for any man to pick up on her desperation. Then when she get hoed or played she cant figure out why. The sad part is she actually stole the illusion from him. He didnt have to sell it to her, present it to her or coerce her into anything. She begged for it. When a guy tell a woman he dont want her and she constantly begs him to be with her, trick him into fathering her child or being plain dumb. She wanted the illusion so bad she saw a mirage. Pimps are everywhere. As Hoes or introverted people they just have to be aware and not let their mind interpret things they are not actually there or too good to be true. Once a pimp have your mind or any man or woman, they have everything else. That is why it is so easy for a woman to get beat and stay with the abuser, a mother to allow someone to harm her child and every other worse case scenerio.
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On March 14, 2010, 9:04 pm Blaze says:
@MsB
Nice follow up to the first blog. You made some valid points and your analogies were on point. A few thoughts come to mind as I read this blog. The problem with this pimp/hoe mentality is that I do think it's more phsycological than anything else. There are a lot of men (boys) who walk around perpetrating as pimps but in actuality they're the hoes. These kind of guys ( fake pimps) need to be with multiple women to keep there self-esteem built up. We've all been there. I would be a hypocrite to say I never had the mentality in sayng that quantity was more important than quality. With that mindset you really can become too self reliant of others (quantity of women). You also sell your own soul. This is one reason why you see a lot of men who stray from being emotionally connected. But with that approach you never get that mentak stability from being with 10 women that you could get from one woman who you allow to know all your insecuritis, weaknesses as well as your desires. As far as the hoe mentality, I would think it's when you begin to invest more emotionally than the other person and you still stay versus setting expectations and demanding respect. It's when once someone who doesn't develop and maintain personal strength and they allow they're happiness to be contigent of the attention of someone else. This is why you see people scared to move on from situations that's not good for them. I equate mental weakness and being too reliant of others as being the hoe. |
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On March 14, 2010, 9:05 pm msbnmd says:
@Loveless: You betta preach! I wanted to stay outta the discussion until we heard more voices but damn girl! I had to jump in here with you....
"A hoe want and need the love so bad they are willing to do anything for it. The sad part is she actually stole the illusion from him. He didnt have to sell it to her, present it to her or coerce her into anything. She begged for it. When a guy tell a woman he dont want her and she constantly begs him to be with her, trick him into fathering her child or being plain dumb. She wanted the illusion so bad she saw a mirage. " Waving my church fan on that one sis! You beatin' me to the punch - hold on - hold on!!!! Don't go so fast!!!!! LOL! I'm working on the psychology of a hoe too, I'll be interested to read what you think about that one! Thanks for the input!!! |
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On March 14, 2010, 9:17 pm Blaze says:
@loveless
Your comments were on point. In order to be an effective pimp/player you have to learn how to create that illusion or dream. They also create and illusion about they're lifestyles a well and avoid letting someone get close to them in effort of not being exposed. I do feel there can be introverted pimps and extroverted hoes. Women sell fake dreams as well in order to keep her rotation in order (if she's the one trying to be the pimp). It works both ways if she's goos at manipulation and how she manages her "leverage". |
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On March 15, 2010, 8:42 am Wood says:
I'm not agreeing with this analogy at all with its sinister spin. From what I saw early on, damn near everybody start out in the game as "pimps". You sistas had no problems in our rolls as pimps having your fun with other pimps during your time... it was fun and care free. The "pimpets" just got tire of the game and reaches a point of wanting to cash in their "chips", while the "pimps" just want to keep on rolling just like they were doing all along.
This post was actually a tad annoying to read...and I read it more than a few times and came up with the same conclusion each time... and especially what was left out. You left out facts that the "hoes" started out as pimpets and were pimping and having fun with the pimps. The "hoes" ended up being hoes when they grew tired of pimping along side the pimps. The pimpets became "hoes" when they grew exhausted and wants to change the rules and wanted to "reset" the pimp game that they once condone and help created, and the pimps just keep on pimping just like they always have. It is not that complicated MSCBS...lol. It’s interesting how many people are unaware of the fact that the “type” they so frequently refer to is sometimes nothing more than a personality that will effectively yield to their “standards, demands, and expectations”. Its compatibility. It is usually you sistas who get the "itch" of wanting more out of the relationship as it moves along. |
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On March 15, 2010, 9:47 am Wood says:
Don't leave out the facts that many of these "hoes" were actually trying to pimp the pimps, but picked the wrong pimp to try to leave and reset the game with and just got hoed. That goes for pimps and pimpetts.
In addition, "hoes" still pimp. Hoes goes in and out of getting "hoed" and pimping other "hoes". Let Lovers Beware. Damn near everyone is trying to sneak below-the-belt body shots in under the radar with trying to "pimp" with omission, distorted representatives, etc, during the dating period. Some pimps got "hoed" when they got their shots in while trying to pimp, but slipped up and got vulnerable and dropped their guards, ended up getting caught up emotionally and found themselves on the other end getting hoed. Hell, call it like it really is MSB. |
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On March 15, 2010, 1:18 pm loveless says:
@Wood you sound so angry and I dont understand why you are saying "MANY OF THESE HOES WERE ACTUALLY TRYING TO PIMP THE PIMPS." What were they pimping him for. A hoe know what she is getting when she sign the contract. Its in black in white. Now if you are talking about girlfriends then that is different. Of course they know what they are getting in the beginning but the more they get into it, feelings get involved and the game has to change for one or the other.Its better if they both feel the same way about one another. Is this what you are talking about when you say "LET LOVERS BEWARE" Everyone take a chance on love @ one point in their life. Some lose, some win. I dont think anyone got pimped or hoed it was just part of life. I always say, I date a lot but I dont know when im going to fall in love again. Its a chance I take. Yeah im guarded but not unreceptive to accepting real love. When things dont work out I dont say I got hoed or played, I just say its was all part of the dating game. So when someone fall in love with me do I say the pimp got pimped, No I say he worked really hard at what he wanted and it paid off.
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On March 15, 2010, 1:56 pm Wood says:
Wood you sound so angry... not at all. My romantic program has served me very well, conseqently, I'm not like your boy Intro who can't find his footing.
"MANY OF THESE HOES WERE ACTUALLY TRYING TO PIMP THE PIMPS." What were they pimping him for. A dating option with the intent of keeping them dating and interested and in many cases for GF benefits all the way up to the point when she decides to blow them off... thats game and big-time pimping. "LET LOVERS BEWARE" Basically what you just stated. We enter it with the knowledge of coming away with an adverse outcome. A hoe know what she is getting when she sign the contract. Its in black in white. I think everyone was using an analogy and not referencing in literal terms...lol. |
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On March 15, 2010, 2:02 pm loveless says:
lol
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On March 15, 2010, 8:14 pm Dashon says:
@MsB: I agree with Blaze...nice follow-up blog!
"The problem with this pimp/hoe mentality is that I do think it's more phsycological than anything else. There are a lot of men (boys) who walk around perpetrating as pimps but in actuality they're the hoes. These kind of guys ( fake pimps) need to be with multiple women to keep there self-esteem built up." @Blaze: I agree...women get caught up in the same trap. @Loveless: Good points.... |
