Flagler Hill - Love and Relationships
March 16th 2010 06:39 PM
Are We Too Caught Up?
by RickGeez
Category Dating
Posted January 31, 2010, 8:43 am
Criteria, standards and preferences..we all have them. Some prefer white collar workers, some require for brothers/sisters to have graduate degrees while others must be a certain height or certain skin tone. Some require a preferred hair style or they must make a certain income. Some prefer a certain style of fashion, bald head or locks, afros or wavy hair. I could go on and on about the various preferences we all have when seeking a mate. I do believe first and foremost we must be attractive to the people we date. When people say looks aren't everything I beg to differ based on how some brothers and sisters view each other. It's a good thing we all have different tastes. It's a good thing I'm one of the few brothers that prefer a sister with locks and naturals versus long or permed hair like some brothers. Does that mean I'm too caught up? Am I limiting myself and missing out on some great sisters with perms? I do believe so and that's just one of many examples of why we're so caught up and limiting ourselves to a set criteria. I also believe we like what we like but why is it so hard for us to be more flexible, to be less superficial and why are all these preferences non-negotiable for most of us? Are these preferences more for our own well being or are we more worried abour impressing other people? There are so many personal standards with so many preferences.    


Are we are using these factors too much as a blueprint when seeking the one? Are they preventing us from looking deeper than what a person may bring to the table? Are we quick to write off that darker skin sister over a light skin sister (or vice versa) even though she's the one who makes you smile, compliments you daily and she'll be the one that will be brutally honest with you unconditionally? What about that brother or sister who's the one that can tap and nurture you emotionally and genuinely cares for you. Don't some brothers/sisters tend to overlook those type because we're stuck in our own preferences? Sisters have you ever met a brother who is a perfect gentleman, cordial and willing to court you the way you deserve to and he's everything you want in a man? But you told your girlfriend that he would be an ideal mate if he was 6'5 or taller but you keep him around only as a FWB because he's serving you (yes I mean intimacy) better than all those taller brothers you would consider on a more serious level? Then you all ask what's love gotta do with it. Other factors may include dating someone with or without kids, divorced, never married or even considering someone older/younger? To really take it there what about that Caucasian man who's constantly putting a smile on that sisters face but she would never consider him as an idea mate because  she only prefers brothers but she finds herself curious at times?  But of course we're too caught up with what our friends and family will say right? What ever happened to finding and loving that someone that loves you? What about that UPS or Fed Ex deliver man who's always meeting you with a warm greeting and he makes you smile and constantly gets you all warm and um..let's say fuzzy inside daily but you could never date a man who wears a uniform to work everyday? Fellas what about that fine sister who has that amazing personality, gorgeous smile, pays her bills, owns a home, fit body, polished look and she's career oriented but you can't get pass the point when she says... "hello, welcome to McDonalds?" Are we too caught up with what our friends may say or how you would present her at the next corporate event? 


Are we too caught up that we think a persons profession or title defines who they are as a person and how they can make you feel inside? Are we too caught up with our own certain preferences that we forget when seeking a mate, a significant other....the one.. we forget that it's all about how that person may compliment your lifestyle? The one that makes you smile, the one that you think about on the regular, the one who will support through thick and thin, the one that accepts you and all your quirks ..the one you prefer to spend all your time with? Are we too caught up that we're more worried about what our homegirls or homeboys may think so we quickly throw them into the friend zone or into this glass jar for emergency purposes only? Are we too caught up trying to have someone presented as our trophy versus someone that has exhibited unconditional love for you whether if you two are a couple or not?  Are we too caught up to the point when we ask someone about the current person they may be dating at the time andthey can spit off their resume verbatim but when asked how he/she makes them feel inside they give you a blank, complexed look? When dating we need to consider what's really important to us, how that person makes us feel and how they compliment us.




Flagler be honest..what's your opinion: Are we too caught up? Have our shallow views and perceptions cost us from meeting and dating really good people? Are we standing in our own way?
 
On January 31, 2010, 11:25 am Dashon says:
Are we too caught up? 

Some of us are....

Have our shallow views and perceptions cost us from meeting and dating really good people?

I believe in some cases it has.  The challenge though is being open enough to accept the things that (are not REAL dealbreakers) that don't vibe with the desires we have for our mate.  For example: height, in my opinion is not a real dealbreaker...but a preference.  If I were to reject a good man because he's 5'9" instead of 6'0", then the loss is most definitely mine.

As you stated...we all have our preferences, and that's okay.  Our preferences only become a problem when they are standing in the way of making connections that would result in the type of relationships that we desire.  It takes a lot of introspection to determine if in fact that is the case.


Are we standing in our own way?

See comment above...
 
On January 31, 2010, 8:03 pm JustAThought says:
LOL at the height comment!  FYI, most women who are particular about height want a man that is taller than them, especially in heels.  I don't need a man that is 6'5", but I'd really prefer someone over 5'10".

But to answer your questions, I believe some people are too caught up.  We tend to focus on the outside, and to make assumptions that the outside indicates what is one the inside.  THese perceptions have cause us to miss out on some really good people, while ending up in broken relationships with no-good liars, cheats, headaches, etc.  I think people sometimes stand in their own way, but thankfully, I believe that most eventually realize what is truly important, and they begin to grow and mature in how they select their dating partners. 
 
On January 31, 2010, 9:12 pm loveless says:
I don't think we are so much caught up as we are about our preferences. I don't mind dating someone I wouldn't normally date because thats the way I am. Pretty much all the guys I have dated are about the same. They are all wonderful and so much fun to be around. If you put them together they would probaly have fun, not in a gay kind of way. The guys I have dated dont have drama surrounding them. They are all educated and dont have children. They all had these expensive hobbies which I thought was really weird because they are grown men. One collected 1st edition comic books, another baseball cards, one represented Negroe League players and met all the living legends and get reunions together for these guys. All I'm saying is I dont mind dating outside my box but I keep meeting the same kind of guys. Its not a bad thing at all. I just dont date guys with children. Yeah I have some but I never allow a guy to come around my children and some say i'm limiting myself for a potential mate. After my divorce it was my choice to not allow a guy to meet my children, it is my preference to not date a guy with any. If I had it my way I would date someone with a really, really dark complexion. I love dark skin men but I date guys with brown skin not just too light. I dont date outside my race, Again I'm limiting myself but I prefer dark skin men. It's just a preference like black men who date white women. I dont feel inferior, its just his preference. I dont go looking for someone kind and loving, it just come natural to attract that kind of guy. I have never been with a no-good man so I cant speak of the negative things other women endure. Yes, my ex cheated on me and it hurted like hell. My heart is still guarded but one day i'm gong to let my guards down. Not to just anyone but someone I prefer to be with. I probaly wouldnt be writing on your blog at all if I didnt date a lot or no one found me interesting.
 
On January 31, 2010, 9:47 pm Wood says:
 
On January 31, 2010, 11:22 pm Goodgurl says:

Dashon is right on point with her commentary!!!

I can honestly say that I am not caught up. I have been married (10 yrs) & divorced for almost 6 years and I realize what is important and I think I always have, (ask my ex,lol!!).  I have always wanted someone who cherishes me. I will admit I have misinterpreted it at times but for the most part, exterior isn't my focus. I don’t care if u drive a ford or a BMW. I don’t care if ur 6'3 or 5'10(although I prefer 6'0,lol) I've dated everything from a landscaper at a local college to a secret service agent to an attorney so remaining open is no big deal to me. If u vibe w/someone but allow outside influences from allowing u to reach the potential of the relationship than why not go to a 3rd world country where someone can be open about dictating ur relationship for u??? I have standards like the next chick but they are mine not what society thinks they should be...

With that being said there are ppl definitely caught up in t/bs!!

 
On January 31, 2010, 11:34 pm Dashon says:
@JAT: I feel you...I think most women (and men) prefer that their man is taller than them, I just used that as an example of how a preference can get in the way of connecting with a good person (M/F).


@Loveless:
  You state:
"I have never been with a no-good man so I cant speak of the negative things other women endure. " 

Yet you go on to say:
"Yes, my ex cheated on me and it hurted like hell. My heart is still guarded "

No disrespect Sis...but it sounds like you can "speak of the negative things other women endure."

Just my 2.5
 
On January 31, 2010, 11:35 pm Dashon says:
@Wood:  Speechless?!?  Unbelievable...LOL!
 
On February 1, 2010, 12:05 am IntroSpectiv says:
I don't think my own shallowness (which there is hardly any of....I'm not shallow at all) has cost me the chance at meeting The One, but I will emphatically say that the collective shallowness of the majority of women my age has cost me at least the chance to be farther along in The Game than I currently sit.

It's one thing to have preferences....but it's another thing to diss a guy because he didn't get to choose to be tall when he was born. The day we get that choice at birth, let me know. I'll practically press the Reset button on my life and come back 7'17" tall since that's apparently what most women want....*obvious, blatant sarcasm there*

 
On February 1, 2010, 8:07 am Wood says:
LOL, I was at work trying to post using my IPod touch, but my comments never appeared. Rick, I think we as a people are very caught up and are passing it down the line to the younger generation...black folks got issues galore.  In general, we came to desire so-called "qualities" in folks that does no one absolutely no good and adds nothing to a relationship.  We impliment terms and expression, ie, "swaggar" - which back in the day, we called pompous ass holes - as qualities of endearment to have.  We spend many important years making very important romantic decisions based on meaniless attributes that we eventually flip-flop on because we realize doesn't add up to Jack Shit when it really matters.

Yeah, black folks are caught up big-time.

You got tons of black folks who have these images ingrained in their heads of finding that other half who can help them pull off this quintessential Mr and Mrs "got it going on" appearance to the masses.

It is funny, but it is sad...

And then, we wonder why...
 
On February 1, 2010, 8:35 am loveless says:
@Dashon I dont condeme nor do I condone cheating but my heart is guarded because I'm not ready to let anyone in yet, I prefer to just keep dating for now. Many women talk about men as if they are all  NO-Good and so forth, Other than cheating most of the guys are met are really good catches. If I was unable to date and completely lonely, I think i'd want someone exclusively but right now, i'm having too much fun.
 
On February 1, 2010, 9:06 am Dashon says:
@Loveless:  I feel ya as it pertains to enjoying single life, and I agree that SOME women "talk about men as if they are all  NO-Good and so forth", however I believe the MAJORITY of us realize that it's not ALL of them are no good.

My earlier point was that having been in a relationship with a cheating mate, you can speak on the hurt that accompanies the behaviors of a man who is not necessarily ALL that good...just as many other women can.I think its great that your experiences with being on the receiving end of bad behavior [from a man] is limited, and that you're mature enough to realize that the bad behavior of one man is not reflective of ALL men.  That's the area where some women are challenged....even when logicially they know better.
 
On February 1, 2010, 10:02 am loveless says:
@Dashon thanks for being an understand sista, I didnt know where this conversation was going. Anyway i'm glad to be a part of the discussions that take place. I usually have a view point like the males but hopefully I dont come across as a person who have her ish together because im far from it. The hurt I have experienced in my life just cause me to love more on the side of cautious rather than foolish. I also understand that Im not going to allow my hurt to male bash when there are some great brothers out there. So thanks again.
 
On February 1, 2010, 10:58 am Dashon says:
@Loveless:  No worries Sis.  I felt where you were coming from, and No you do not come across like you got it all together.  Your participation in other FH discussions lets me know that you're working to be better at this relationship thing like the rest of us. 

Caution is always a good thing.  Couple that with your open-mind and a willingness to give a guy the benefit of the doubt and not paint him with the same brush as every other man -- and you got a good formula for success.
 
On February 1, 2010, 11:20 am LuckyLover says:
I agree with Dashon.  Trust your instincts.
 
On February 2, 2010, 12:58 am Melanie says:
I think ppl spend too much time looking at what floats everyone else's boat. Ppl look at what their family/parents/friends and media put out as great mate attributes and people use it as a thoughtless guide. They spend more time with their external representative, then they do learning themselves. If people spent more time putting some actual thought into what they want and why they want it instead of following along, we'd all be better off.
 
On February 6, 2010, 9:04 pm lelaine says:
What an interesting thought?  I think being caught up or not is really only answered by each individual.  My story that I make up about others is that some are too caught up and complaining so they never find anything other than what they say they do not want.  People often have not experienced what they say they want.  If they experience it, then they are able to make an informed choice instead of wondering or like Melanie says geting the great mate ideals from other sources! 

For me, I now just want to go with the flow.  I need to anaylze whatever presents itself, and like Goodgurl I too am not focused on exterior.  Don't get me wrong, eye candy is often attractive and enticing at least from a distance...
 
On February 6, 2010, 9:05 pm lelaine says:
What an interesting thought?  I think being caught up or not is really only answered by each individual.  My story that I make up about others is that some are too caught up and complaining so they never find anything other than what they say they do not want.  People often have not experienced what they say they want.  If they experience it, then they are able to make an informed choice instead of wondering or like Melanie says geting the great mate ideals from other sources! 

For me, I now just want to go with the flow.  I need to anaylze whatever presents itself, and like Goodgurl I too am not focused on exterior.  Don't get me wrong, eye candy is often attractive and enticing at least from a distance...
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