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The Conversation ~ (Part 1)
by Dashon on October 1, 2009, 7:44 pm in Dating
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I’m reading Hill Harper’s book, “The Conversation ~ How Black Men and Women Can Build Loving, Trusting Relationships”.  Mr. Harper is an excellent writer – no doubt, and overall I’m enjoying the book.  It reminds me of our conversations on the Hill.  He references the importance of “being committed to the commitment” (a Dashon-ism); “getting unstuck” (a TMurray-ism); and a number of [his] comments reflect things that have been expressed by the Men of FH.  How Mass say it: “Let me find out Mr. Harper is a member of the Hill. (LOL)

He spoke on the historical and familial issues that have impacted our relationships, among other topics.   Some of the information gave me cause for pause, and stirred introspective thought; and while they were not new ideas or concepts, they resonated with me….

“To have completely, embarrassingly honest conversations takes courage…The etymology of the word is cor meaning “heart”.  Speaking from the heart means truly being able to speak about all things that are in you, and then in turn, living from your heart.  Most people have been taught to live from their heads, which is what people who have had to survive have learned how to do.  But at this point in our journey, if we stay in that place, we will bear witness to our own destruction – all the while playing it safe and blaming one another.”

Agreed Brother Hill…agreed.  So often we allow our heads to talk against, or talk us out of what our hearts feel.   We LOOK for reasons (aka excuses) to “manage our emotions” versus being courageous and allowing our hearts to live out loud. 

The Blame Game?  It’s so very played out.   It’s time for each of us to step up like the men and women we profess to be.  Stop playing the victim.  Stop pointing our fingers outward, while never even bothering to look at our own naked behinds in the mirror.  Stop blaming everything & everybody & every situation that has ever fucked with our heads or hearts for our mess, and our messiness.  If we don’t flip the script…we will continue to experience further devastation to the Black family, and our communities.

“We need more light about each other.  Light creates an understanding, understanding creates love, love creates patience, and patience creates unity.” ~ Malcolm X

Hill tells the story of a friend of a (female) friend that he set-up with a couple of his boys.   (Still with me?

The young lady was described as carefree, personable, funny, and so on….but each of the guys Hill set her up with, reported that she was uptight, boring and basically a drain.  The total opposite of when she's with her girls or family.  I thought about the times when I've had my guard up so high that my naturally effervescent personality could not shine through.  Brother Malcolm was, and is correct….we need more light.

“Everybody likes to hear please and thank you; nobody likes to feel taken for granted.”

It’s ironic and sad at the same time, that we’ll extend common courtesy and demonstrate our home training to strangers in the street, before we’ll extend those same pleasantries to one another.  Common courtesy never goes out of style, it’s just not so common these days.  We’ve pimped the word friend….created so many derivative definitions of it, until some folks truly don’t know what a friend is.   No matter how we slice it up though–the official definition remains: an ally, or somebody who is not an enemy

As my friend Gayle used to say: “We’re focusing on the wrong thing.”  We’re so busy trying not to Get Got, that we’ve become leery of even extending natural expressions of courtesy and consideration; fearing that we’ll appear weak, or be taken advantage of.  Never realizing that being courteous is just like respect & trust.  In order to get it, you must give it.  It is my belief that showing consideration & acknowledging acts of kindness with genuine thanks, is the catalyst for building the level of respect & trust between the Black Man & Woman. 

Just my 2.5.

FH FAM:  Your Thoughts?

On October 2, 2009, 4:58 pm girlygirl33 says:
We’re so busy trying not to Get Got…we’ve become leery of even extending what should be natural expressions of courtesy and consideration; fearing that we’ll appear weak or be taken advantage of.  Never realizing that it’s just like respect & trust.  In order to get it, you must give it.  It is my belief that treating one another courteously & acknowledging acts of kindness with genunine thanks, is the catalyst for building the level of respect & trust between the Black Man & Woman...

That statement is sooo True....we are always in defense mode like dating is some type of war between the sexes....True folks on the hill called this a while ago..."The Fear Factor"...defense mechanisms being emotionally closed off...afraid to be vulnerable...at the end of the day...it really doesn't help bridge the gap. 

I just started reading his book too and I agree it's a good read but I think some of the folks on FH may have covered his topics already! LOL
On October 18, 2009, 10:00 am msbnmd says:
@Dash: I am definately a Harper fan...just love how pro-active the brotha is being about making black families and communities a national agenda. Thanks for sharing this with us...I particularly loved this:

“To have completely, embarrassingly honest conversations takes courage…The etymology of the word is cor meaning “heart”.  Speaking from the heart means truly being able to speak about all things that are in you, and then in turn, living from your heart."

My name is written all over this...lol! I speak from my head so much that it can take me months to feel comfortable to speak from the heart with someone. By then, some feel I have played so many mind games that they become disinterested....right when I'm getting warmed up! I know this is a matter of courage...and at times the fear of alienation, rejection or mis-understanding outweighs my knowledge of how fruitful this type of relating can be. Gives me more to think about (smile)....thanks for the share!
On November 9, 2009, 4:25 pm Dashon says:
"I speak from my head so much that it can take me months to feel comfortable to speak from the heart with someone"

MsB: 
This is definitely one of those things that is easier said than done.  I don't believe you're alone in this...in fact I think it applies to the majority of folks seeking and/or in relationships.  Its that "F" word. 

No matter how much we try to pysch ourselves up to be more transparent, to go with the flow, to have an open mind....at the end of the day, I think you will find very few who are actually able to do it...at least consistently.
On November 9, 2009, 4:25 pm Dashon says:
"I speak from my head so much that it can take me months to feel comfortable to speak from the heart with someone"

MsB: 
This is definitely one of those things that is easier said than done.  I don't believe you're alone in this...in fact I think it applies to the majority of folks seeking and/or in relationships.  Its that "F" word. 

No matter how much we try to pysch ourselves up to be more transparent, to go with the flow, to have an open mind....at the end of the day, I think you will find very few who are actually able to do it...at least consistently.
On November 12, 2009, 12:19 pm MakStar says:
Well now that is a MOUTH FULL of TRUTH...

Those are Excellent points.  Some of which I will take the time to comment on later...when i'm not at work.  Cause I can see this can get "WORDY"  LOL

Have a great day FH!!!
On December 4, 2009, 7:59 am BEASTFRMVA says:
Most of the dating scene is watered down with image and who people want to be. It is like a job interview or a pledge process for a fraternity or sorority: Many people give you a look on who they want you to see and forget to be who they are because they are so bent out of shape trying to get the other person's attention and affection.

Which in turn ends up being one of the main problems in why relationships ends so often because people never continue to "Do what you did to get them in order to keep them"!
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