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July 29th 2010
The Aging Playa
by Dashon on January 10, 2010, 12:35 am in In a Relationship
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This weekend, while hanging out with some friends, I noticed something that previously I’d never really paid much attention to.

In Atlanta, where the male/female ratio is overwhelmingly in favor of the men – there are a lot of Aging Playa’s (AP) still standing around or holding up bar stools;  rocking  an older version of a younger style, buying drinks, and hoping to find someone for a night or a lifetime.

As I watched the AP’s do what they do, I thought about how the number of conversations between men & women focus on the Seasoned Woman’s plight in the dating world, however there’s not much said about the plight of the AP’s who are now searching for love in the wake of their twilight years.

I spotted a guy I'd met when I was in my twenties.  Back in the day, we were both regular fixtures at Mr. V’s On Peachtree for the Friday night happy hour. With the exception of less hair, and a few pounds, seeing him perched up at the bar, was like déjà vu’. 

As we chatted, I discovered that he had been married briefly, and from the tone of his comments -- he’s now one of the walking wounded; another angry & bitter black man who’s out here looking for someone to share all that misery with.

I asked if he was single by choice or by chance.  Initially he gave me a PC response: “I like my freedom, and I don’t want to invite unnecessary drama into my life.”  As our conversation advanced, it became evident that he (just like many single women), is challenged with finding someone who fits his criteria; much of which in my humble opinion was superficial.

Here was a guy that wanted a loving and committed relationship, but had a “list” that almost ensured he’d retain his single status.  Although he no longer can boast youth & stamina as competencies on his dating resume, he wants that in his woman. 

He wants the ability to retain many of his single ways, but desires a woman who is willing to throw hers out the window.  He wants a woman who has herself together, yet he still has some unresolved issues that make him a less than ideal mate.  He wants a woman who has the face of Halle Berry and the body of Beyonce, yet he himself doesn’t possess the physical attributes or swag of Denzel, the accomplishments of Barack Obama, or a body like Fifty-Cents.

This chance meeting with an aging playa, convinced me that having a fun-house mirror image of one’s market-value is not restricted to women.  Perhaps it’s these skewed images of self and the superficial criteria many of us hold fast to, that make single status more chance….than choice….even when we should be old enough to know better.

On January 14, 2010, 7:37 pm Dashon says:
Footnote:  So I sent a link for this blog to the AP in question, and he said its different for men...that they are entitled to expect from women what they themselves are not.  Seriously?!?
On January 14, 2010, 8:47 pm RickGeez says:
@Dashon:

Interesting blog sister. You might want to send him a link to my Too Selfish, Too Stuck  blog because this is a perfect example from a males perspective. You would figure after some time, some failed relationships and still alone he would be more humble and more willing to compromise...time waits for no man. Nice pic sister..such a beautiful smile.
On January 15, 2010, 7:09 am Dashon says:
@Rick:  Thanks.  I may do that, but wondering if ole boy would even see himself in it. (Sighs)
On February 1, 2010, 5:13 am TMurray says:
Dashon - I like this blog and being a 30 something dating woman I have started to run into the AP. I agree with your assessment and I do think that for some reason men are a less apt to admit their middle age hangups as a result of bad realtionships, failed marriages, etc.  I also think we agree that men don't apply the same standards to themselves that they apply to women (at any age!) I can't understand how a fat or out of shape man (I'm just going to say it) is going to require a petitie woman? But that's how it is. I know a guy with a receding hairline and he seems to only date chicks that could walk onto a music video set in terms of body size and weave-age. Interesting points....but sometimes talking to men and women about their hangups is like talking to a wall.  It seems your AP fits this bill...
On February 1, 2010, 9:15 am Dashon says:
@TMurray:  It's so amazing how they see their situation differently from a woman (in their age group) that's single.  Its kind of like a "What's wrong with you?, Why are you single?" mindset.   However they never question their own single status, or engage in any kind of introspection to determine if perhaps THEY are the reason they're still single. (Sighs)
On February 1, 2010, 10:03 am Blaze says:
@Dashon

I find your comments along with Tmurrrays very interesting and so truthful. I just had this very same conversation over the weekend with my rommates from school and we were talking about how men aren't really honest with themselves. We're too busy living through the lens' of what our boys may say or from a male perspective but we never flip it and ever wonder how our lifestyles, habits or actions may look through the lens' of an established woman. Our boys will always tell us what we want to hear but from a womans perspective are we viewed as goal oriented, business minded, do we appear to family oriented or still appear as the aging player you mentioned. Some men can't face the truth but honest feedback, not assumptions,  is not always a bad thing once the sting wears off.  
On February 1, 2010, 10:25 am Wood says:
What in the world!!!!  Why I never!!!... but it is basically true...lol.

I've seen two types of old school players.  One is the older and smoove brotha who is still holding it down physically, doing well financially, etc, and can "pullem" from the early thirties, all the up to the upper forties.  Many old school players don't want to go past fifty, if that far...lol.  This old school player looks great for his age, dress nice and has a sense of style and great substance about himself.

The second type is the old Sugar Daddy type.  Now, he has to come out with his wallet out right off the top and he knows it, because his physically appearance has waned years ago, if he ever had it to start.  This type really reaches for the upper twenties and early thirties high maintenace type of sistas.  He even looks like he is her Sugar/Pimp Daddy type when out in the club or bar.  This type know his angle is about money and conveys that to the woman who seeks financial contributions to help maintain her lifestyle. 

Dashon, for many men, young and old, being so-called single has no stigma attached to it at all. 

When I told a few of my friends, both here in Ohio and back home in Norfolk about me getting engaged, I got a few congrats to a few "why in the hell would you want to do that" look, from both married and single men.  It was almost like I was getting marriage at the worse possible time and mess up such a good thing of being single... especially when things are going great in my life.

One married partner said... married ?!?!, then caught himself and congratulated me...lol.
On February 1, 2010, 10:30 am Wood says:
smoove = smooth... stupid ole fingers.
On February 1, 2010, 10:52 am Dashon says:
@Blaze:  Thanks for the feedback from a man's perspective.  I've often wondered if men give one another reality checks when it comes to this type of thing the same way in which our sister-friends will do for us.  I think its great that you and your boys can have those type of conversations and wish that more guys would do the same...perhaps we would see less AP's looking at themselves and their lives through fun-house mirrors.

@Wood:  Good descriptions of two-types of AP's...you nailed it!  There's also another group: the upper 30 - 40 group.  Because they've not quite started to experience some of the more extreme physcial changes of aging, and are still considered somewhat young by society's standards...they still feel entitled to pull the same women that they were privy to in their 20's and early 30's, when in fact...they come with more baggage too because of their life experiences; not to mention the inability to "go at it" like they use to due to a longer "recovery time" if you get my drift. (Smile). 

On February 1, 2010, 1:44 pm Wood says:
In regards to what Blaze stated, yes, men do give other brothas feed-bacak, but it usually have to be in more severe situations.  During college, I had a group of friends who were on the football team, who wives were room-mates.  These guys married, had children, but one of the fellas was a bonified player, and had no shame in his game from day one.  Me and one of my other friends would had to say something every once in a while... he was way too trifling. 

I'm talking about knocking up his mistress, wife forgave him, etc.  I'm talking about him taking his GF on a vacation while his wife babysat his love child for week.  She calls me crying and telling him to answer his phone, etc.  He got three children and a love child and was still seeing the baby momma.

Me and my other partner just had to say something and check him when it got that trifling, but a single player out there doing his thing... grown folks business.

He got so trifling that me and my other partners had to distance ourselves from him, because he was dishonest with us and was just too far out there.  We are "cool", but the closeness isn't there. 

My biggest disappointment came when one of our main boy died last year at 46 and left behind a wife and three sons.  My partner is the only one still in the town and he doest not check up on my boy's wife and kids, eventhough, he has a son their age and his wife and my deceased partner wife are the best of friends and were room-mates in college... I am extremely disappointed in this distant behavior, expecially since my boy was a big-time family man.

I will say something sooner or later, but once he died, I call his wife and reached out to his children and continue to do so regularly now. 

I am extremely pissed off that he is right there and doesn't reach out to those boys.
On February 1, 2010, 2:50 pm Dashon says:
@Wood:  Yeah, I would agree....a trifling brotha.  I'm assuming that since he's your boy, you guys are close (if not the same) in age, which would definitely qualify him as an AP.  (Sighs)
On February 1, 2010, 4:19 pm BlackSwan says:
@Wood

First let me say good for you and thank you. What you shared isn't unheard of. There are a lot of men (and women alike) out there who feel no shame for acting out against the people that should be near and dear to them. They affect everyone and everything around them. They draw out all the love, the good, and the energy like a blackhole, to feed that inner demon. The worst are those that think that because they do it, everyone else is too, so it must be okay. If there were better, guys, men, fathers out there who stand up to their would-be friends, society would be much better off. Kids and young adults today would have better shining examples to look to and emulate.
On February 1, 2010, 4:58 pm Blaze says:
@BlackSwan

You made some great points with your last comments. As men we all need to do a better job at holding each other to higher standards. We need to demand more from each other. I often see more women challenging each other more so than men.
On February 1, 2010, 6:38 pm Wood says:
Yeah Dashon, we are less than six months apart...46.  I must say that his running the street has been a consistant fact since we were freshmen, so it isn't anything new or unexpected.  Oh, his wife is fine as hell, after three kids, she still got it going on.  She told me and my other boy that she told him... just come home before the kids get up in the morning.  His daughter can't stand him.  My other boy who pasted away was very annoyed with his behavior, expecially since him being a dedicated family man.  We could not understand why he put his family in jeapardy over some fine skanks... they should be divorced by now. 

My personal issue came when he start trying to BS me... I thought I was exempt from his shit, until he BSed me and proved me wrong.  But my biggest disappointment came when I talked to my deceased partner's wife and she informed me that she hasn't heard from him, except the one time when he did take her boys to a basketball game.  What pisses me off, is that they have boys the same age and know each other since birth, so he could easily intergrate their activites together such as fishing, sports and other outings.  My boys was a big-time giver, and his motto was "if I help just one person, then my life would not have been in vain".  Even his wife told me last week that she was very disappointed, because all those guys who knew him and played with in that are still in the area, haven't called or even inquired about her or the kids since the funeral.

Me and my other partner visit and extend a line of communication and support towards her and her boys, because we all know that Hurst would want us to see about his family in the event that he couldn't.
On February 3, 2010, 10:36 pm Dashon says:
@Wood:  God bless ya!  :-)
On February 3, 2010, 11:26 pm Wood says:
@BlackSwan:  Yeah, I agree.  I think there should limits and boundaries to a man's madness.  When he gets married and have a family, I think he should clean up his shit or at the very least, show some mage descretion in his game.

Thanks Dashon... you are looking really nice on these new pictures. 
On February 4, 2010, 12:21 am Dashon says:
@Wood:  Thanks!
On March 31, 2010, 10:24 am BEASTFRMVA says:
OK (looking in the mirror) am I an AP? I like fashion and looking nice. I have no kids and ideally desire the same...just for beginners...but I have accepted that love has fewer boundaries than what I have accepted in my life.
On March 31, 2010, 10:28 am Dashon says:
@Beast:  LOL...naw Bruh, you're still too young to be an AP!  But you moving in that direction. (lol)

"but I have accepted that love has fewer boundaries than what I have accepted in my life."

Insightful Beast....introspective indeed.
On April 16, 2010, 5:48 pm Trubutee says:
I'm just shaking my head....I know a few AP's, but the ones I know are losing their player status...They are slipping and tripping!!! Still holding on to a life they should have let go of several years ago. LOL
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